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I'd like to start by just asking you to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=1.8,13.4"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so my name is Tristan only do I pronounce it the French way and because I'm a French citizen. I am 55. I was born in a Paris suburbs and I live in Paris and Well, I have been involved with computers since I was 14. I think that was in 1980. Or is it 18 one? I can't remember exactly. But for some reason, a friend of my parents bought a TRS-80 10d RadioShack that you know made it to France somehow. Back then and thought Oh, The Young Tristan may be interested in this new thing. And so he was he was going on vacation for two weeks and so before going to Vacation, he dropped it at the house which was at the time in Normandy in rural, very rural Normandy and the middle of nowhere and I have for 15 days in a row. I was stuck in front of it, you know. Opening the man. Annual page 1 and starting to read and it was, it was very exciting. I can't remember whether it was in French or in English, but I started learning how to program a computers and with the basic language there, and it was, it was like a tiny door open to a new world. That grown-ups did not understand at all. That made me very special and and so it made the world. Very exciting, you know, learning new things. We're no one around me could compete with, you know, because being a kid. Oh, no Nana and that place my parents all wonderful, but it was nice to be the one that knows the most about something, and that's how I got into computing. And programming at the time. And then my parents bit later, moved to Paris, where I got the opportunity that there was something here that in Paris that got started. That was what we will call it the CMI in French. What? See any sort of Mondial uniformity, which means like worldwide Center for computing, which sounds a bit of or the top if you ask me. But still and it was, it was very, very special place, which welcome computer scientists and also biology researchers from the MIT mostly And in France, where they had, like a gorgeous building right in the middle of Paris near the, the Elysee Palace, which is dark like the French house French White House. You could actually see the French White House from from the building itself. And and the ground floor was open to the general public. And then I was one of these kids who could use computers, you know, yet to show up early in the morning. Sure that you would be the first to be sitting in front of the computer and a whole Community started to their, you know, people that from all walks of life happened to be there and started chatting and And discussing computer stuff and learning stuff and teaching each other stuff. Because there was that bunch of computers left in front. Of them. We were supposed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=14.3,274.3"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=275.1,276.2"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e learn how to program in logo. That's a programming language. I think the creator of it was a simmer paper from MIT if I recall correctly, but, you know, in some cases, we were illegally, copying some games on diskettes and stuff like that. So it was not Exhibit. We were not exactly doing what we were supposed to do. Not all of us at least, where I started learning how to program computers in Assembly Language in. This is where I first met my well, the Apple 2 computer, which was very exciting in. And, and somehow they were a couple of terminals left in a in in the room that nobody was using because they were meant for, you know, the organizers of the the place yet to log in. And of course, I didn't have a password, but somehow few friends of mine managed to hack into the computers and into this Terminals. And and got noticed, well, caught. I don't know what's best. But they were nice enough to say. Oh, well, you seem to be, you know, doing pretty well with these things. So I went on, we open up a an account for you and and so a bunch of us were authorized to use the the Mainframe computer that they had on top of the, you know, everything that the Apple tools and and the other personal computers. Is around there. It was. I think it was in 82 or 83 or something 1982 1983 exam. And there was one guy that I met there who had a long beard and long hair. And which name is Richard M. Stallman. So, I met this guy was just, you know, an ordinary guy more hairy than most but that's still. And and so, we were learning different things, you know, we were able to use the various computers there there. And so we were, they were like a handful of kids that like me were allowed to go into the corridors, into the flaws and and use not just the Apple 2 s and the rest. That wasn't it on the ground floor, but something else all they had it was tons of fun. We were learning a lot. I need happens that. In retrospect. This is where a lot of the it were startup Generations started in France. A bunch of these kids including myself were well became involved in competing for the rest of their lives and started companies and stuff. I don't know if you should be asking me questions, or should I keep going or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=276.9,506.2"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'm happy to. So you, you met mr. Stillman and did at that time. Were you thinking about free software or open source, or was this before that time? When did those ideas sort of start percolating into the into your world?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=507.2,527.9"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e It was. At first, I was a kids or a lot of things were not clear in my head like what's allowed and what's not allowed? You know, like if you copy software. Can you legally, do it legally do it or or you just can you physically do it? You know, it's just it's it's kind of the same thing more or less. So whether I wasn't allowed to do So will not was not very clear and therefore the free software and nature of things. Well, we were sharing whether it was legal or illegal, by the way. So if you see what I mean, and and at the time I didn't realize the importance of it, to be honest, I and I'm a bit maybe to shame in return. Aspect. But no, we didn't didn't make any difference for me fast forward to. When was that? 1996? I was, I had discovered the web. I had started doing my first web page at that time. The whole, the big craze was, you know, having your homepage? Like, like, if, when you go on the web, of course, you start browsing. But it's, there's not a lot to be to see. But now, then the next step is to build your own home page. So that's What I did, but I didn't want to do like everybody else and it happened that my wife was pregnant with our first child. And so I decided to build the home page of our baby which wasn't born at the time. So so you had to put the, you know, given name. Give you give your name give a put a picture and you have your resume but in all of these three cases it was was it. Odd. So I had to put a picture. Is it a sonogram? Is that how you call it? How, you know, like so. So there was that picture of the kid of the be of the baby's sonogram. Instead of a mug shot and and we didn't have a name for him right away. So we call them virtual Bob because well, well, people kept asking. What's his name? It said, well, we'll call him Bob for now. And so it was virtual Bob. And so, and the pages to the line, by the way, I moved it and and it's still on my website. And what's it's mostly in French. Is it? Some of it is in English? So it was it was fun. And and of course the craze at the time was all about Netscape the web. Zur, and also the server-side software. And I was in a, in a company and small French company. Sorry, my cat is misbehaving. And so, that's a French company that imported software from North America Canadian and an American and And it was very excited by the web and one day. I was browsing on on the French Netscape website where I saw a job posting for was it was like, kind of an evangelist for Netscape in France. I said, yeah, I could totally picture myself. Being paid for discussing the web around me. And so I applied and the and it took a while because the there was a hiring freeze at the time. So it led they left me for three months hanging out at a nearby. I made it into Netscape. It was in 97 and it was a lot of work, but it was fun with smart people. In in 98, then Netscape decides to open up the source code for Netscape Communicator, right? And, and they called it open source at the time. So, I'm sorry. And it's taking me a lot of time to answer your question, but it was open source because Raiment and named it open source that he was the guy who was involved with Netscape management and and it was more kind of West Coast, very work business-friendly view of the world and so open source. I think at the time was crafted as a word as an expression, as opposed to free software. Which was more. I don't know how you call it. Lift it or kissed or well, not to prove business friendly or business. Wouldn't go Come First. Freedom was would come first. And so at the time he was, it was adventurous and and I was in France. I was employed by Netscape 4, southern Europe and And then there was that announcement. That's Netscape would give away the browser. So it was a matter of price. So everybody got it there for that. Part of the message. That was, that was easy. That price equals 0 fine. Well, not every salesman was happy with that. But because they had quote, as, and all of this, so they were wondering, how am I going to make money if the price is the price? Like price tag says zero, they got it, not really happy but got it. And then there was that source code opening and collaboration and then, you know, nobody got a clear understanding what it meant a couple of, you know, tech people in Paris, kind of got it. What? Didn't feel that the publishing. The code was was good. Like nobody cared like with the customer be interested in the code. Of course, not. I mean, they don't even know what it what it means, you know, it's changing the code and and there and then there was me. And I remember, and I remember Richard stallman and I remembered all of that, that it was actually, you know, pretty close. If you, if you zoom out, you know, seen from afar. It's very similar. Now, there are significant differences between open source and free software, but seen from afar there. They're pretty close and I was very excited. Always. Because it was a grand idea. It was, it was something bigger than myself. It was something that was bigger than just making money and selling software, it was Yeah, I was it was amazingly exciting for, for reasons that are hard to explain. I was I was not so interested in, you know, selling software. That was fine. I mean, making good money was fine, but it was not super exciting as opposed to open source software and once again, which like a new door was opening, it was Amazing. And I think even for, for the you for the free software Community, it was it was a big change in a sense that before that really, it was, it was computer scientist getting together and hacking software, and they office and sending tapes from one place to the other. Yeah. I'm sorry. I never used tape to myself. Well, actually I did on it here as a You know, not on that scale. I was in was not sending my piece of software on tips to friends. Like, like the MIT people did at some point. Uh-huh, but it was their way to do things and then came A new ingredient. That was the web and now completely changed the court. For cooperation between Developers. Netscape made well created the Mozilla project and along with it came bugzilla. Uh-huh, which was a complete Game Changer, even if it was not beautiful and not super easy to use it was it was amazing. Well, too. So basically it's a you could kind of compare it to GitHub these days more or less its an issue tracker. But first it was, you know, it was running in a web browser. That means that everyone with a PC and a web browser and an internet connection, and some understanding of a code, get start hacking and hacking the sense of, you know, Developing or trying to or playing, with the a piece of software, could contribute to that piece of software. so it was a complete Game Changer, in a sense that you didn't have to be any address book of a bunch of computer scientists and your to send tapes through mail to, to other people, you could, you could show up, you know, you could open a bug, he had just had to open an account in bugzilla and you could comment on bug reports and say, Is doing this and I expect that and I suspect his come from coming from that piece of code and you started engaging with with the community. So the community in cell phone said of being a small one became potentially, a really big one provided that the project was interesting and to be honest. The Mozilla project was not super interesting at the beginning for many. Reasons first well, the piece of software was there was a lot of friction, you know, bugzilla. And and all of that the the tools were rudimentary and also there was something which is which is really bad is that the source code that was open, was missing, very significant pieces because in a bunch of places of the communicator code, They will provide a list of licenses. So Netscape couldn't ship the whole thing and and you could compile it and make it work. Now. They were winning to ship the product, but they had to remove big pieces of it beef. And so you, you end up with a Swiss cheese instead of whole thing. And so it's you can compile it, you can use it. You know, it was very frustrating. And also it was huge and the quality wasn't great because because of over the previous years, the Netscape teams had struggled to compete with Microsoft. And so they rushed features have baked into the product in order to beat the competition and all that. And so this leaves them with technical. That was that was huge. So you ended up with the terrible open source experience in. On top of that Netscape was being bought by AOL America online","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=530.0,1379.3"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e and And maybe","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=1380.2,1385.8"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e in order to help with the Mozilla project, you have to have the knowledge to do that. You had to do the willingness to cope with the terrible experience, and you were willing to give your precious free time, and as a computer engineer, you don't have a lot of this, because you With the light on the on the market. So and and some of that you were willing to give this to his name. Is it Steve case? The CEO of a witch? Yeah. With a former executive of Pizza Hut, you know, and I don't I'm not I'm not saying bad things about him. But basically it's not the kind of guy that is really appealing to us or you know of two volunteers. Basically. Are you willing to give your your time with worth some money and And your energy to someone who's already Super Rich by, you know, selling pizza and so it didn't it wasn't it was a great start. It wasn't a great start for the music project any became worse. I was I was at the time I managed to be to change jobs, within Netscape and and go to at the time. It was Netscape client predict division or Klein product development. I could it was Netscape CPD, but I can't remember. Well, you get the gist and so and they asked me to do. A job, which was, you know, very unpleasant, which words, it was an important job. Well, important. I don't know, but I took it seriously, accept it, it wouldn't work. I was asking web developers to make sure that their website whisking Panic were compatible. if the upcoming version of the open source version following communicator, First Netscape Communicator, was, was bleeding market. Share. It was terrible with you're going, lower and lower. So that was not the, the it was not the hype. I was not the promising browser and therefore. People can less and less about it. And on top of that. I was not talking about the current version was talking about the newer version the future version that did not exist at the time except in beta 15 versions that nobody used. And I had nothing to do in terms of compatibility with the old version. so, Telling people that they should change their habits, and their products and their websites to be compatible with something that wasn't there. But, you know, just in order to be future proof and while nobody really cared about the product and nobody really believed, and that he had a future was extremely unpleasant because people wouldn't listen to me. So we took the long list of important websites in the US. So I had colleagues that did that in us and I was doing that in Germany, France and UK like the 500, the top 500 websites in these three countries and and we were trying all of them, the main features in In the the upcoming version of the browser and of course we were writing down what he to fail. We open book reports in bugzilla to follow up on that and then we were to analyze their website syntax and in the if they are HTML and JavaScript and CSS. Was broken, how it was broken, how we could fix it. And then we came up with a fix and we send them and they wouldn't care. Uh-huh. So, this way wasn't pleasant. It's trying to fix one one website at a time fifteen hundred websites in three different languages to people who didn't care at all on the other. And that there was there was there. Wasn't fun. I think it was important because because something that probably is not clear to people who maybe we'll hear or view this video. It's The new version of Communicator which was a Consortium, had a new engine named Gecko and giggle, was a complete rewrite of the old Netscape Communicator engine. And by complete rewrite means that the old bugs. We're aunt in the new code base.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=1390.4,1759.2"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e So it was better,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=1760.2,1761.5"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e but it was less forgiving for spelling, mistakes and such in the web pages, not in the text, but in, in the mark-up that made","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=1762.1,1774.9"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e rendering","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=1776.4,1777.0"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e and so immense that if your page displayed properly in Internet Explorer, Microsoft Internet, Or Netscape Communicator cap for sorry. Cathy's, a 44 in French. Then you thought you would Define, but with the upcoming version of the Mozilla browser, it would fail. Which was frustrating for everybody involved. Both the people that made the websites that thought they were good. It's rendering in IE. So I'm fine. No. And, and also the develop the muslin developers who had to replicate Internet Explorer bugs into their own code, the safety of compatibility, which is, I'm sure very unpleasant. Yeah. And so this was what we were doing at a time. So this was around 2000 or something. And in the meantime, AOL. Didn't understand anything about software. They had their own proprietary system, which was very different from the web that they're online service, which embedded Internet Explorer, the competition, you know, and we were trying to have them include our piece of software, already ringing engine family company. Yeah, instead of the competition and Didn't get why they would do that because it will be less compatible with the existing web, than Internet Explorer. So it's frustrating even for them. And for us as a will employees. It was a very difficult time and so they started laying off. Netscape employs several waves. I managed to get through a few of them, but it was scary. Like maybe you're going to get fired next week and you never know. And so well it was if it wasn't pleasant for pretty much everyone involved and when they are well, got enough for all of this. They were they were in I don't know the exact words. I'm sorry. It's it's vocabulary. I don't use it often, but they were fighting. It's your more more of your of your realm than mine. You know, they were suing, they were suing Microsoft basically and they got a deal with Microsoft like we're Stop suing you and you write a nice fat check and we're good friends. Now, you know, also it's are not good for business. Right? And and so, Microsoft did write a big fat check to to AOL which suddenly lost or seem to last that. That's how I see it. Any kind of interests with Netscape? Like, okay, got my money. Why would I care about these hippies? That happens first? And so, the kind of gave up on us and decided to, to let the project go and pretty much, everyone was laid off a few people, you know, being computer Engineers could be, you know, move to other AOL divisions and stuff. But most If people were laid off which an unpleasant, it was an unpleasant end to an unpleasant moment. and, and it was frustrating because oui. I mean, many people and I I I I at least but I know people around me thought that's the web was a wonderful promise. We hoped that open source would be the the answer to for, you know, saving that promise and make it happen. And we hoped that AOL. Having Deep Pockets would help us and it didn't happen. So we were disappointed. And especially, you know, that promise was not going to be fulfilled that the promise of the web, you know, in retrospect. I find myself very naive, maybe not that a bit naive. Hopefully, I'm staying a which is, which is good. I think by now he for thinking that the web is a wonderful thing and you're fuming. You think about Facebook right after that you you understand what I mean? My naive you but there's a good part of the web, which is carrying the promise. And so we're seeing the moment where the web was for everyone to publish to communicate. And if you communicate, you understand each other better. And then you think about Twitter and the area ice not the case at all. Still. And and so it was disappointing that this promised wouldn't happen and we had lost our job. 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I should have checked my dates before but I think this is this. I think I think that the AOL Microsoft dealed happen in June 2003 We were laid off and mid-july. And so we're we're going to do the Mozilla Foundation which was, which was just created, had the brand-new right to use them as an Eye Brand, which, you know, good at least, you know, you got it from from the Netscape folks, a few machines with the, you know, Rivers and stuff with this whole scored on it and a hardware to make it run. A bit of cash. Put was like two million dollars and not in one payment into payments on buddy. And the code and, and, and, and of course the code, which which was open. And then was good. And, and with the money, they managed to hire like eight people or something clever as than a dozen of the of the important folks in Silicon Valley, which was good, but for us in Europe, nothing, uh-huh. Well, you have to remember, they were like, several hundreds Netscape employees working on the Mozilla project. So it was like a vast majority of them. Got laid off and only a tiny part was we hired immediately, for, by the Mozilla Foundation. And it was it was a bit gloomy and we thought we were doomed and actually it was the opposite. Yeah. In fact, maybe I'm just terrible with that understanding things. It's never like I think it is. I thought it was terrible and and it was actually a good thing. Because we were able to bounce back literally like hitting the floor and and bounce back because suddenly we were not in the shadow of AOL and suddenly we were we were something important and we were a bit helpless. And then means that some people were interested in helping us. Suddenly. They wouldn't spend a dime or that time to, to you to help something in the shadows are very well. But suddenly, you know, if you feel like you're gonna die, they wouldn't see and your hand which is good. And, and so and at the same time in it needs to be to be said the Mosaic project itself had decided not to say that it was very smart, but also unpleasant, so Before this happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2198.3,2429.1"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e We were","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2431.3,2431.8"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e trying to attract a community of people that could come and work on the project and some of them were individuals and some of them were professionals, like, IBM employees, that came to work and which were Contracting with clients and in between contracts. They would come and spend some time working with us. Well, you know, at least they were paid by the Employer and employee said, instead of not doing anything with the client. Then you should spend your time on doing this and that on, on the Mozilla project, which it was good. But everybody came and left and wanted to you. Leave their mark on the product, you know, like you want to do that button. That's you know, is it is used probably like two percent of the user and that's really cool. Like with this click, you could switch off all the presentation and you see the raw page, isn't it? Beautiful? If you can do that, like nobody's going to do that. Anyway, but it's cool and it's my button. You see? It's not mine because I didn't do that, but I I've met many people that really wanted to have their own button in the product with their own feature or their menu option or yeah, they were, they were fights about what you can be put in a contextual menu when you right-click on something will be cool. If my future was there, you know, because it's visible, I know. And so we were, we were trying to attract people and it's same time. It was really hard to keep the product clean. 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I know that ordinary users are overwhelmed with Too many options when they're contextual menu is you know, is two pages long or were dozens of things that pop and in there using the face. I understand that, but like many people, I was mad. When these couple of people started to remove. 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This is not acceptable. They were so they were fights between the willingness to include a lot of people in the open-source way and the willingness to make a clean simplified product. And then with it wasn't pleasant. Once again, he was hard to take off, you know, make make the CUNY, take off and there was these couple guys, you know, killing it. So at the time, the two projects went side-by-side. And the clean and cp5 project became Firefox, but at the time, you have to understand that Firefox wasn't cool at all in the community where it was a Coal Fire Fox at a time. But what became Firefox was not cool because the way was managed, which was the right way to be honest. If, you know, the, you know, the story, this the end of the story, of course. They were right to do that. It was but It was it wasn't cool to see them do that to the open source project and to the participation who we that many of us wanted to see happening. And also it was it was a matter of power. They could decide and we could just see our work removed from the product. That was there wasn't cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2643.7,2754.8"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e And and, and they were, they were like two things, they did that. It to be a nice one. Is you don't. Please don't comment in a book reports in bugzilla. Just use the forums to do that. Yeah, go and start a forum Thread about this and so you could yell everything you wanted to. They never read it. I'm sure, but I'm pretty sure they didn't read anything at all. And if I were in their shoes, I wouldn't read it. Like, like I don't read the comments in the Nazi called anything. He's because I know, it's just so they didn't go where play in places where they were criticized. And so they, they pretended to forms where the place, right? Place to discuss, removals of stuff, and then read it and the second thing they did. Which was a really amazing was the extension system. Maybe I'm rewriting history, but I don't think I am. Is that they when they removed the buttons and widgets and stuff from from Firefox. What would became become Firefox? They said, yes, but there is now an extension mechanism that enables you to write an extension. So if you want your button back, you write an extension and you could","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2756.9,2854.0"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e Putback.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2854.2,2855.1"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e Basically copy paste your code into the extension with a bit of a lie, but at least they had something to respond. So you put it in the extension and the extension, you can add it manually into your instance of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2856.7,2872.7"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e product, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2872.7,2874.1"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e And extensions have been fantastic for Firefox. Precisely because you could customize your browser","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2877.6,2886.1"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e and now Philip browsers have them right? Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2886.8,2889.6"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly. You know, my current job today is to write an extension have a company around that. So so which is, which is funny, pretty much 18 years later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2892.1,2904.2"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, so, so Um, you mentioned the end of the story and I want to make sure that we get to the end of the story because I think when most people think about Firefox at least, you know, during a period of about, I don't know ten years or so, they would probably call it a wild success. So to tell me about, you know, when Firefox launched, and it began to challenge Internet Explorer and so forth, you know, what are your thoughts about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2906.2,2939.1"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e well, so in the In July 2003, I get laid off and the people in a European offices, get laid off. And that there is that promise of the web, you know, which was basically delayed by Internet Explorer. Well by Microsoft, not willing to update Internet Explorer, not being interested in the future of the web, right? They were interested in stuff. In the web because it was dangerous for the windows Monopoly. It was not good for the Microsoft Office way of selling licenses. In the, at the time. You have to remember that it was, you would buy shrink-wrapped CDs at Fry's or, you know, a retail store and the idea of having software delivered to Hugh. In a browser that was like super dangerous to Microsoft business model and it we've seen it took them years to build Microsoft 365 and such how this struggling with Microsoft, with Google Docs and stuff competing with Google. And so, to some extent, they were right and I don't think they were on there. They weren't on the good side of the moral story. But at least business ways, they were, right. And and so, but now that the web was stalling, they were not interested in, you know, making a modern browser and all of that and so it was somebody else's job to do it. Except that. There was no money to be made. I know what browser, because Internet Explorer was still shipping with Windows and you would get you know, what's the price tag was set to zero forever? And then so nobody who would be interested in competing with with a product with no money to be made in a process. So it was more or less mozilla's job to make it happen. And was it, I was at a at a stop, you know, so we decided and a couple of friends and I and myself and a couple of people and new volunteers. They're in a community in Italy, important Poland in the UK, in France, in Germany. We loved the Mozilla project. We knew that Standalone browser, which became Firefox was in the pipes, you know, being worked on. Some of us. Well, we ended up everyone and it understanding, it would work, but we didn't realize all of us at the same time, you know, it was it happen over time, but I think that that Firefox is saying that maybe it's going to take off. Maybe it's going to work. And so, even if I don't have a job. I'm going to help make it well to life. I will help delivering it to the world and we thought it would be. In a few months, so it was like a over a few months and the French law saying, you can't lay off someone for at least three months. This, you get at least three months severance. And then you have an employment benefits that there is a small period of time where you don't have anything but I was doing okay, so I thought I'm going to do that in the meantime, so I'm going to help. The Mozilla Foundation to serve potential users in Europe because I knew from experience. That it's really hard for a u.s. Organization to properly deliver and the dress users and clients and customers in Europe because it's so different. It's so many well two cultures","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=2941.7,3241.1"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_1:\u003c/strong\u003e for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=3242.1,3242.3"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e being different languages being different, the need for localization, you know, translating piece of software making sure, Assurance in the languages is properly done. And all of that is, it's complicated when you're Netscape. It's a bit easier when you are AOL, because you have more money, but if your Mozilla foundation with eight employees, not going to happen for sure. And I thought who could do that in Europe and, and like everybody, I would talk to the old said, well 3-stone. You're the guy. Come on, I don't want to do that. I don't feel like I'm properly equipped to, to do that, you know, and so anyway, I would gather people from different countries. People that I knew that were involved in helping the Mozilla project in and we decided we would make an organization to support that too. Make it real. And I ask who, well, well we need if it's a French non-profit. We need a president. That's the name of the job position who who wants to be president and I didn't want to be present at all like and that's just that something happier than they ask for a volunteer and everybody steps back once except one. That was me. You know, that's why I got, I got involved. In this North they were right. It kind of makes sense, you know, maybe it was because I was at the least technical of all of them. So what was put in a place where I would do the less damage and and so we we did that. Hoping that Firefox would launch soon. Unfortunately. It took us. I think that's 10 or 15 months to launch because it's software and that never happens on time and it which was a lot longer that I expected. and there was a witch that easy at all to do that because you know, that like the the French an employment agency was asking me whether I would setting resumes and and, you know, and stuff like that or whether I was creating a company and I was not creating a company, you know, these are the two It's basically and then they were threatened to stab the benefits from coming. And I managed to be lucky enough to be discussing with a guy who was nice and an understanding and said, so you're building a non-profit. Yes, and we're going to crush Microsoft and yeah, yeah, sure. But and so, I would, I would show him. Emails from Mitchell Baker and from the Mozilla foundation and stuff like that. He wouldn't speak a word of English as a translate me. So I could have, you know, said anything anything? But I did not. I was I was so yes, we were discussing, you know, so that we could use those a lot brand and and and and stuff like that. And you said, yeah, sure it's fine. And and, and in the end we ended up creating. hundreds of jobs in Europe, so it's so he was right, but at the time it was a bit far-fetched to to believe me and believe that I would we succeed and And so, Firefox was making progress at the same same time. And even before it reached 1.0 as a version, even by 0.8., It was, it was, it was crazy. People would adopt it. People would promote it. It would, it was the next cool thing. I wish I was spending, probably a third of my time blogging about it and talking a I remember. In the, in a cafe in Paris, they were two guys next to the next table did were discussing the web. I remember, chatting with you. Have you heard that Firefox? You know, like they were this guy? No, never heard. 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And and to be honest it was it was almost too easy because the web developer were so Upset by Internet Explorer. What was a really terrible browser? Like very, very buggy with full of security holes and let me get past and even if you broke proper HTML, it wouldn't displayed properly and stuff like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126#t=3565.6,3611.4"},{"id":"https://fossda.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1633/collection_resources/56968/file/131126/transcript/34793/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e SPEAKER_3:\u003c/strong\u003e And so they they were they were waiting for Anna tentative a better solution and and Firefox was Well, could be an and it showed that it started to be the response to that. It was, it was delivering, really. It wasn't Perfect by at all. But in many cases, in many things, we were better than Internet Explorer, and we were showing constant Improvement, newer versions, and it was cool. He was open sewers and start people started, kind of, you know, listening to us that we were discussing web standards. So, you know the do or what we call sometimes the quality web like the web done properly as we could make it, maybe an industry, you know, something serious. Not Not not just working around Internet Explorer bugs, but really make it proper decent job. Yeah, make the web. Nice make it, make it good and and also open source, you know, David versus Goliath. It was crazy. You know that the Mozilla foundation in Mozilla Europe. Both on profits were kicking Microsoft ass, it didn't seem possible, but it was happening and so people got excited. It. Was that spread Firefox campaign going on, where people were Putting buttons to spread Firefox and they were counters and so they would compete to bring the most downloads and stuff like that and there was a need. Obviously there was a need for a better web browser with with tabs with extensions with support for the newest CSS features and also fast because it was riveting completely Rewritten and and You know. It was, it was really cool. Basically, it became viral. I would say. And and so I stayed there, making sure that we would launch. Firefox in Europe, probably even though I was kind of starving financially, but I made, I made the commitment that I would help shape Firefox 10 and the unemployment agency was kind enough to let me do it, even though the unemployment benefits are as good as a, as a real paycheck. It's still, it's still Money. So we made it work. It was, it was really, it was really cool. And it was, it was amazing. I think that the open source movement. Was also behind us, you know, it said it was really two things, the web standards and web development. So web standards were hope for the forward-thinking web Developers for some web developers. That was, you know, one of his, you know things, one more thing to think about but some people were forward-thinking enough to understand that maybe this is going to be your job, easier, down the road and And be better considerated and and you know, instead of dealing with bugs, but rather than dealing with features and you know, interesting stuff and also the open-source movement where they were was a lot of hope that the Microsoft of the world would be replaced when they were in either with something that was carrying more. About individuals. And so do these two forces were helping us pushing us and, and we were and then and the product was was in perfect position. It was really good. It was, it was really good. I it wouldn't have happened if if it was crap, and it was not no, I mean it. 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