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Ellis again, interviewing Heather Meeker and part two of our interview for fasta on November 1st. 2021. So to start our second part Heather, I'd love to hear from you a little bit about fasta what it is and kind of what inspired you to start it. Well in the spirit of everybody having 20. Any hindsight? I I realized at a certain point during the pandemic, you know, during 2020 that the the community around open source, software licensing was an aging community and the so-called first generation of people who started it, you know, we're getting older one. Person, I know actually passed away during that time and many of us are approaching retirement. And, you know, so I thought it would be a good idea to capture the human element of this movement before it's too late. The see there's been a lot written and spoken about on the phone. Philosophy of this movement but the human story I think has not been talked about a lot, and if I can make a generalization part of that is because many people who are in this movement or not comfortable talking about personal things. So so that we don't tend to get the human story very easily. And I thought the human story was important because this movement was a completely Grassroots movement. Wasn't imposed by any hierarchy. No. Government. No, you know, NGO no academic. I mean, these were just people writing software and I think when you see the interviews with people, it a lot of it will be along the lines of well, I was trying to do something in this seemed to be a good way to do it, you know, so they kind of came together and started. Started agreeing with the philosophy from the ground up and and today when you look around at the technology landscape, like open-source runs everything today and most people don't realize that, but this movement was so huge that it completely changed our world and it happened because some people got together. Without the benefit of any top-down organization in order to make those changes. So I thought to myself. As a society, we need to understand how changes like that happen because those are potentially, extremely valuable, and Powerful changes. And so what kind of person does that? That was really the question? How did these people get involved in this? And everybody seems to have his or her own story about it? And that's what I wanted to capture. Can you say a little bit more about? what you mean by like the almost the How something like this could happen that there is value in understanding how something like this. Like it's a more about about that. Like what was what is so special about that? It wasn't the central governing body. I don't know what what is it about? This is that is important and can be learned and embraced by other types of movements and change I guess. Yeah fair enough. I mean, different people have different levels of trust in institutions. Ands, and so I guess you know, there are different ways of thinking about how we improve our world. One of them is to have in institutions decide that for us and another is to have people just decide to do things differently and then get the institutions to come along. Obviously. Those aren't complete dichotomies, you know, usually it's somewhere in the middle, but there's there's a lot Of information about how institutions change our world, you know, people pass laws. They, you know, they engage in PR campaigns and so forth. But another thing, there's as much information about how Grassroots movements happen. So for those situations where we feel may be, that our institutions are failing us, the it's important to understand how individuals can get together. To make change. Tell me a little bit about what makes someone what makes a know. Someone that kind of embrace that open-source mindset unique or different like, what are some of the traits of a kind of like the open source people, if you will. Well, I think there is a tendency of people in open source to be willing to pay. It Forward, you know because it's a it's a gift economy, kind of situation and so the people who were involved in it and built the movement did that in part by doing a lot of hard work and giving it away to the World when they have the right to keep it to themselves. So there's this gift idea. And also the open-source movement historically has been I don't want to use the word libertarian because it just doesn't like the recent use of that don't have the right associations. But I kind of mean it in maybe an older sense where people want to set their own rules as opposed to having the, you know, a government or something set for them. And they want to create they want to create a community with their own rules and there's definitely We at the early stages of the movement. There was an idea that was, I think the philosophy of some of the people involved not everyone. But in that respect, I think there may be different kinds of people from your average person in that. They, they wanted to change the rules and set their own rules, but they were willing to engage in an enormous amount of work in order to make that happen. Could you tell us a little bit about Out, who were some of those big early players. Some of these folks, we might have the opportunity to interview to kind of hear in their own words, who they are and what, what was it about them that that led them to say? Hey, I'm going to put an outsourced amount of effort into or out sighs. I should say out size amount of effort into something like this, and why I believe it's important but kind of set the stage who were some of those those, those early players. Well, so the ones who are best known are the ones who are most vocal. I'm sure I'll start by saying there are many unsung heroes in this movement and I hope to find some of those because some people just don't talk about themselves that much. So that a lot of people put a lot of effort into a lot of things. But if you wanted to track like who are the leaders of this movement, you could do that by tracking what were the big projects that came out of it? So obviously the Linux Object is key and Linus. Torvalds started that project and is still a leader of it even after all these years. So he was a real prime mover in this area. Richard, stallman was an important leader in this area, too, and he was involved in something called the new project, which is related to Linux. It's they kind of work together and he was also So, a leader of the philosophy of the movement, I would. Also, you know, I talked to Bruce parents already. He was a huge contributor at the beginning of the movement to various things and also to the philosophy of it. Eric Raymond was a big philosophy, philosophical, contributor. I don't actually know as much about his technical contributions. As I sit here today, have to do some research. Also, I would say the Mozilla project was huge because it that and by the way, Mozilla is the the organization that does the Firefox browser? Because at the time that it was, you know, organizing basically, we were looking at a situation where there was one browser dominating the market and that was creating. Issues for people and the issues. It was creating were about who gets access to the internet and how and people thought that was very important and still is very important. But the Mozilla project was a huge project and and Mitchell Baker contributed to it heavily, although she's a lawyer and so Less on the technical end, but she was really one of the like founding, Organizers of that project and made it into from a project to a huge organization. So those were some of the people, there are many many people. I'm sure like, I'm missing lots of people and I don't want anybody to think that because I didn't mention someone, they're not important but those are. The people like come right to my mind. Yeah. Absolutely. And as you said hopefully as a part of this project will learn about more and I hope so, yeah. Yeah, and how one? I hope they will. I hope they will share my my like ideas about the importance of capturing the story. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. To the extent that you had kind of interactions with some of those early Pioneers. If you will tell us a little bit just about like some of the interactions that you've had with some of those key. Players. Well, so some of these people have very strong personalities and, and, you know, you don't need to take my word for it. There's been a lot of public discussion of mr. Stallman and mr. Torvald in particular. And by the way, I mean, whatever people might think about their behavior, it takes a strong personality to create something. Saying, you know, I find generally that, you know, people people have to have, you know, somewhat extreme behavior in order to create something big and they later get criticized for that and maybe rightly so. But but that's sometimes the reality is that, if you going to put that much work into something and really try to change things, you have to be a person who Leaves completely and what you're doing and people who believe completely and what they're doing, tend to be extreme personalities. I'm I'm not the person. Kind of person who could do that because I'm, I'm too much of a person who thinks. Well, you know, maybe I'm not right about this. And different different people have different attitudes. Although wow, I'm I'm I'm sure what you're saying, may be true in certain areas. I will challenge you and saying, but you, but you believed in Open Source Early on when others and even your workplace, didn't believe in it in the way that you did and you and you helped to that. So there is a part of you that also looks dead back who's strong and believing in something that you cared about I guess. So there's there's something bigger, I guess. So, I am. But I am also, you know, Warrior at heart sort of like looking at things from different angles and sometimes the people who really achieve great things in this world. They have a real black and white mentality, you know, it's like this is the only right way to do something, and, and that's just not me. Could you talk a little bit about what it was like to be a woman in the early days of programming and also in open source software movement. Well, so actually when I was working as a programmer, there were definitely other women working. I mean it was we were not half the workforce but it wasn't that unusual in. I think the reason for that was that At the time they're like the industry was not very entrenched. Like I got into programming basically because I put my hand up and said I'd like to do this job. And so when you have a situation like that where you don't need a bunch of credentials or experience, you know, that actually is more of a Level Playing Field. And when I was a programmer, you know, during the early days of my career. There were usually fewer women than men, but but it's not like there were none, or, you know, it was shocking to see a woman working as a programmer. I think as time went on, it became more male dominated and and maybe were sort of swinging backward at this point and I hope so. I have to say that I personally have spent my whole life involved in things where The industry was dominated by men. So I'm very used to it. And when I'm in a meeting and I'm the only woman there, I don't feel very uncomfortable with that. Like and, you know, the tech industry gets a lot of really bad press about sexism and I'm sure, you know, it's deserved in certain ways, but I have to say that for myself. I think that when I interact with people in tack, mostly, they only care about what you can do. They don't care about who you are at all. And to me, that's actually liberating. Like, that's a good thing because if you are a woman, or if you are, you know, belong to some group, that is underrepresented. It just means you can kind of forget that if you want to. And that's always been my Approach is just like I just don't care what anyone like what anyone thinks of me as a woman, you know, in doing what I'm doing. It what matters is am. I capable of doing the job and do they, you know, do they listen to what I have to say? And am I coming up with good ideas? And I have to say that I've certainly experienced a few very awkward moments where You know, people have said, odd things to me or made the wrong assumptions about me because I was female. But in retrospect I just find those kind of ridiculous. I mean, I don't I don't really get angry about them. But but you know, that's some that was the way I was raised. You know, my mother was a career woman and in those days that was not common and, you know, I was just Never really taught to think that I couldn't do things because I was female. So, so I got to kind of leave that baggage behind and then when I encountered, you know, like challenging situations in the workplace. I just, I just like ignored it. Basically, which I think is the best thing to do on an individual level. Maybe not on a societal level. So, so anyway, in early days of programming, there actually were quite a few women working with me as I moved into being a lawyer and working in open-source. Actually a lot of, a lot of there, a lot of women lawyers. I mean, maybe not quite so much in technology and maybe not quite so much in business law as in some other practices, but it's a lot of, you know, it's not like Aren't lots of women in the law practice. There are tons of them. And in open-source, I would say still kind of, you know, more men, but lots of women represented to and it sounds like at least your experience in the space and specifically in technology was that because technology is technology companies in large part. It's about what can you do? What are you capable of? And you know certain credentials. It's you get goodbye working a lot on side projects and it doesn't matter if you have, you know, if you've gone through coursework or not. It's just what have you built that? That was kind of liberating for you to stop. Yeah, capable and can you almost prove yourself? If you prove yourself then you prove yourself almost. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's not good to ignore. The societal influences of whether women feel empowered to take risks and contribute to things. And whether they have the time in their day to do that, given that they usually have more domestic responsibilities than the men and their life. Those are all important issues. But at a certain level like open source and a lot of, you know, what I've done has been like typing stuff into a computer. So the computer doesn't care what you are. Are you know, so so not perfect, certainly their issues, but for me, it hasn't been a huge hurdle. I think the that's because of the attitude that I brought to it, mostly which was, you know, anybody who underestimates my capabilities should do. So, at their Peril and I've told I've told other women this and some of them look, look, at me, oddly, but but I've actually said to people if someone looks at you and thinks you're not smart because you're a woman then you've actually got an advantage over them because you're going to prove them wrong and you'll probably do it at exactly the moment that will embarrass them the most Wow, I love that. If there's a story that can be shared. I'm curious if there's anything about like a moment when you prove someone wrong at like the right time, but I to the if there's one that that that you want to share, I mean I'd be very curious to hear but open to you if you want to explore that or not. Well, this was not an open source thing that I remember going to a I remember going to a meeting at my law firm and I think every woman will have had this. Experience at least once and it was going to be with one of my partners and a client in me. And in our office is, is casual dress. This was back when people went to offices, of course, casual dress, so I'm sure I wasn't dressed in such a fashion that would have indicated that I was actually a fairly senior partner at the firm and I, the my partner wasn't there. He was a little It'll late. So I come in and the clients in the conference room and I see, oh, hi, you know, hi. I'm Heather. And he asked me to get him a cup of coffee and, and I, and I thought that was like, so funny, but actually, I think he had assumed. I was a receptionist or something. I don't know. And, and so, of course, that's a very sexist assumption, but on the other hand, I hadn't said anything and it wasn't dressed in such a Some to clarify who I was and I hadn't had him to my card yet. So I went and got him a cup of coffee because I'm a nice person and I'll get people come some coffee and they asked me and then I sat down and I said, oh hi. I'm you know, the intellectual property licensing partner here and I think the guy was so mortified and I actually felt sorry for him. I like didn't try to embarrass that guy, but that happens, you know, it's, it's, it's noise, you know, Anna and it happens to everyone who is woman or minority or whatever. And and that's part of the burden, right? Of of of an imbalance Society, but on a certain level, you kind of just got to let it roll off your back or else you'll just be angry all the time. Yeah. Yeah, let's let it roll off your back and also kind of have those Jiu-Jitsu moment. Oh, yes. I'll get you a cup of coffee. Yeah, by the way, I'm dividing. By the way. I'm a partner in this firm, and I'm the one who's going to tell you the answer to your problems. That's great. Maybe just to wrap up here. What's your what do you see as the the future of Open Source? And and what's your hope for the future of the open-source movement? Well, I think open source. There's nothing that could really seriously threatened. It, at this point. I mean, you will hear people's literally saying in headlines and quotes quote. Asians this is going to be the death of a like something will happen. They'll say this is going to be the death of open-source. Well, it won't because it will not die. It is completely it's everywhere now. And so it's just going to keep doing that after I'm you know, out of this area for one reason or another, you know, it's going to be nice and healthy, and I don't worry about that at all. It may be the interesting question is like, in a way. It's already Eclipse to proprietary software. Like there's just so much more of it. But the question is now, what's going to happen to proprietary software, like will it will open source really almost completely push it out. And would there be an actual structural change, like a change in the law saying that. You know, to make the copyright law more consistent with open-source principles than proprietary ones. I suspect not mainly because the copyright law is, you know, it's largely the result of lobbying by the media industry which tends to make copyright law, stronger and stronger over time. Whereas as it applies to software open source has just kind of Like made a big hole in his copyright in a way because people have decided to opt out of it, basically, for a lot of software by licensing under open source licenses or public domain. So, I think the question is not what happens. Open-source like what the question is. How dominant will it be going forward? I love it. Well, I'm going to for sure ask other people that version of the question or maybe for other energy yours. How dominant will open source of be much more dominant kind of get. Yeah, how much more down we can we get? Yeah. Yeah, it actually made me think of a another question. Which is what do you think? Other Industries are domains stand to learn from the story of Open source and and from just the practice of Open Source. Well, the the standards industry is in the process of trying to figure out whether it wants to learn the lessons of Open Source. So, you know, since time out of hand, there have been standards and patent licenses for Hardware, you know, like USB and the what the plug that you plug into the wall. Looks like, and all this stuff is all this stuff. Is dictated by standards and by Patent licensing and right now that sector, oh, no, that's all right. Word is trying to figure out how much it wants to go towards the open source model and in some areas, I think open source will have a huge influence on it. In other areas. I think it won't, but that's probably. The next step is do. We expand this idea, too? Other things, besides software. And by the way, I actually have a little collection of like some of the more bizarre, things things that people have called open source, you know, other than software sex toys saders. I don't know. I can't remember the word, like people say, open source X and then, you know, it turns out that it's done, really have anything to do with Principles of Open Source software, but for hardware and for like standards there is this idea of Open Standards. No one knows really exactly what it is yet, and then there is an idea of open data, which is similar. So those those areas May benefit from the open source model first, but people are always trying to say something as open source because it sounds cool. All, but usually it's not by the way, but who knows? Maybe there will be you know, the equivalent of open-source genomes or whatever in the future, you just as the last thing that comes to my mind here is what what if any other communities or domains of knowledge or expertise do you? Look to or admire that that you think the open-source Community could learn from or Embrace values or ideas from? Well, that's a good question. I honestly don't know the answer to that. I mean they're there are problems in the open source Community. One of them is under-representation of women and minorities, right? But there's also issues about open source development has historically had a very like brutally Frank style of interaction and different people feel differently about whether that's a good idea. So more civility and discourse would be a good thing, but I'm not really sure what community open source would be learning from since I perceive our world is getting less and less civil every day. Interesting, interesting, huh. One to thank God. Cool. Yeah, and anything else. I know we're also kind of coming up to time here, too bad. Anything else that came to your mind through throughout our time today. A or in between our last session that you'd want to share or talk about before we call it meeting adjourned for this interview. Yeah, I mean, one thing about Foster the fasta project. I am, I really hope the projects gets done but I don't want to control the project. Like I'm trying to be an agent provocateur and start it. But I hope that one day it will also be a community controlled project. I don't I don't really have any interest in exercising, control over it. So I'm hoping that others will see the value of it. And also, you know, be interested in in guiding it, you know, because this is for the neck. First generation. It's not for me. It's not for those of my generation. It's really for the Next Generation. How can people get involved? What, how can they help? Well, it's early days now, but I do have a little tiny website up and if anyone wants to be interviewed or interview or suggest people to be interviewed, Or be on the board or of course, give us some money to fund the project because it takes money to fund the project. They can just contact me, but in the future, I'm sure. Well. I hope that, those things will get more formalized. And my little website will give way to something more formal. So, but right now, I'm the conduit for everything if you want to reiterate, what one last Time. What's as you said? And of this, this is really for the Next Generation. What? What do they stand to learn? And what, what ways do you think that this sort of project and document the stories can be crucial going forward and for the Next Generation? Well, one thing that I hope people learn is how What, what? Untrodden territory this was at the beginning. Now, it's pretty entrenched in our world, but it was absolutely radical at the beginning and And that their it was just like people stepping up and saying, this is what we want to do. That's what I want them to experience. And to see that a movement can be extremely valuable. Even if like, you don't understand the motivations of the people who start, even if you disagree with them, or you don't like them or whatever, you know, it doesn't mean something good. Don't come out of it because when you take things and then you put them in a community, the community tends to shape, how those things will grow. And so, in a way, if you're a successful founder of something, at the end of the day, you don't matter, you know, and it's what the community does with what you created that simple. Well, with that Heather, thank you again so much for your time and getting Foster started. Thanks so much. 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